California Democrat Gov. Gavin Newsom in his new podcast seems to make nice with right-wing provocateurs Steve Bannon and Charlie Kirk, which has turned heads as he looks ahead to a potential 2028 presidential run, reports the Wall Street Journal.

Specifically, his statement that transgender girls and women participating in female sports leagues is “deeply unfair” produced an uproar since Newsom has been a longtime champion of LGBTQ+ rights.

“I think he wants to be president, more than anything else on the planet. I think you can agree, he has more political ambition that almost anybody in the Democrat Party,” Kirk, a right-wing political influencer, said last week during an appearance on Fox News.

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